[quote=Magic Magnum] Do you care to expand on what you mean by if it's Inconvenient? [/quote] The amount of effort is not commensurate to the reward if I prove it. [quote=Vortex] Personally i feel that if you cannot prove it or show me good odds that it is probably correct then i do not know how you can possibly believe it. [/quote] Just because this is such a trite internetism, Cos^2(X)=1-Sin^2(X) Cos(X)=sqrt(1-Sin^2(X)) 1+Cos(X)=1+sqrt(1-Sin^2(X)) 1+Cos(pi)=1+sqrt(1-Sin^2(pi)) 1-1=1+sqrt(1-0) 0=2 If you looked at that result (not that 2 actually equals zero but that I have just disproved pythagorean identities) and disbelieved it without immediately knowing the mathematical error I intentionally made, congratulations, you now know how it feels to be religious. Please grab a habit or whatever those nun hats are called on your way out. EVERYONE (read: everyone) believes in that which cannot be proven. The Munchausen trilemma: A conclusion must have as its premises 1. An axiom (a premise accepted without proof because it cannot be proven) 2. An infinite regression of proof (impossible) 3. A premise it itself proves (circular logic is inherently fallacious. To illustrate the trilemma, ask someone to prove something obvious, do your best impresion of a five-year-old and ask "How do you know?"