[quote=WittyReference] You must be angry all the time then! I played the console version a fair bit before I got a semi-decent PC up and running and, looking back, I think you might be right. I was going to disagree with you and say the console version was a pile of ass I can only really recall a handful of freezes or game-breaking clipping; still more than I'd like mind you but not as much as I first thought. [/quote] I would agree with you also but i think that X-box or rather Microsoft or rather who ever fixes it on the consoles has fixed more problems then Besthsda or Steam on the PC and my only gripe with the PC version is the laziness of the not fixing game breaking bugs on the PC version.