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Eugh, god I hate VEPRs. Their construction, particularly in the receiver, strays too far from normal AK specs to garner my interest.

And are Mosins really that expensive? I got mine for $120, and it was the most expensive of the 8 this guy was selling.
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Eugh, god I hate VEPRs. Their construction, particularly in the receiver, strays too far from normal AK specs to garner my interest.And are Mosins really that expensive? I got mine for $120, and it was the most expensive of the 8 this guy was selling.

I got mine for $98 incl. tax.

Came with 440 rds of ammo 'n stuff.

To say I bought another +1k rds and shot the everloving soviet shit out of it would be an understatement. It caught on fire twice so far.

So glad I bought a $5 slip-on rubber recoil-pad (originally meant for a shotgun).
-that said, the recoil is still enough to sandpaper your elbows when shooting from a bench (despite Kevlar sleeves).

Do like, will try reloading the cases, then sell the kit after the stock of cartridges are completely exhausted.
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I may be trading my Saiga for what appears to be a Bulgarian AK-74 built on a NoDak Spud receiver. I'm a bit apprehensive about it, but it'll save me the headache of converting my rifle the rest of the way. My only concern is that it doesn't have the integral scope mount, so I'd have to get a new one and either install it myself or go to a gunsmith about it (probably the latter).

Do you guys think I should go for it?
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I think you should be very wary of a trade; if you know the guy and know they're upright and honest and that the gun is good, sure.

If not, shy away from it. Play it safe.

Baseball cards, comic books, guns, whatever, hobbyists tend to be a weird breed that fuck each other over on trades, or at least it seems that way to me.
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Meh, fair enough.
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I just got myself an SKS.

Life is good.
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On the other hand, trades of that nature can garner you really cool shit if the guy doesn't give a shit about his collection anymore -- that's how I got some seriously good taclights/optics that I proceeded to mount on my shotgun and AR-15.
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Finally got to go shooting and zero my scope. I didn't get it quite exactly, but I'm not using it for sniping, so for 100 meters, I'd say this is okay.

I was aiming for the center target the entire time. The fact that my first mag went to the top right target was a lucky convenience, making it really easy to zero the scope. The center target is where my last mag went. A smidge high, but I'll call it good. All in all, I'm definitely happy with the results, and I am very glad I invested in that scope. It's also opened my eyes a bit to the fact that I really shouldn't let go of this rifle. It's worth holding on to, so I'm not going to do the trade.



I also ended up sanding a couple of parts to make things a bit smoother, namely the bolt carrier and trigger. It's amazing how much of a difference just a little bit of sanding can do.
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Clean the barrel good, or dem corrosive primers will ruin the barrel.

Sanding/polishing/oiling/lube works epic wonders for the mosin's bolt, which is stiff largely due to the firing-pin travel being pretty massive (it hits the primer with tremendous force, compared to pretty much any other firearm, ever).

Grouping ain't great, get it in the bull or you'll have a hard time hitting targets even as close as 200 yards with a gun rated for 500 on iron-sights.
-At 100 yards, I can write my name in .22LR, ammunition permitting.
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Grouping ain't great, get it in the bull or you'll have a hard time hitting targets even as close as 200 yards with a gun rated for 500 on iron-sights.-At 100 yards, I can write my name in .22LR, ammunition permitting.


I know. I'll have to get a lead sled so that I can tell if it's my aim or if the rifle just isn't that accurate.

I find that I generally do better with my Mosin as far as groupings go, and I have a tendency to unintentionally rapid-fire with semi-automatic guns. I just shoot as soon as it looks like the sights line up. Probably not the best way to go about doing things, but I do have much better groupings with my Mosin, so I think it's just the way I approach bolt action vs. semi-auto.
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I found quite the jem on Gunbroker today. It's too bad it costs more than my car.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=436434643
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There's a new governor in my state, and we may be going Shall-Issue, as he gets to regulate how the licenses are issued. I just got an Inside the Waistband (IWB) holster for my Sig P239, which I never bothered to show pictures of because there was never much point to it in the sense that I couldn't get a conceal carry license in this state. I even had a paddle holster for it, but kept the thing locked away. Anyway, it's perfect for the role, not that I feel compelled to carry -- I'd just like the license because it's better to have and not need. I think I like the IWB better than the paddle for carrying.
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I'm not even an adult yet but I live in Kansas, so, it's not like that matters. My dad has some redneck friends and one of them gave me the best 17th birthday ever by letting me shoot a Remington twelve gauge semi-auto, a Taurus Judge (hell yes!), a .240 (I think that is what it was), and a .22 single-action revolver. This was the first time I had EVER shot anything bigger than a .22 rifle, but this guy was good. He knew guns amazingly well and had some incredible advice on them, and I don't think I'll ever be able to shoot a pellet gun again without being underwhelmed, haha.
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I did finally take as photo of my P239. This was literally my first gun buy, and it's a very good carry piece for someone like me; I'm a tall guy and it hides well with something like a jacket. It's not as small as some other conceal carry designs and it's all metal frame, so it's heavier, but it's accurate, has good ergonomics and very controllable recoil. Sig Sauer is pricey, but I think that if you're going to buy something to rely upon, you need to be absolutely sure of what you've got. I also put Hogue grips on that years ago. (And yes, my desk is a hideously old relic that was around well before I was born. I don't think I'll ever abandon it.)
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Well, I guess since this thread is here, I'll explain my first firearm experience. I was always afraid of guns. I watched my papaw (southern talk for grandfather) shoot the head off a 6 foot, 12 rattled rattlesnake. The noise scared me as a child and ever since then I had been afraid of being around them or seeing them. Well, I moved a few states away to be live with my boyfriend at the time who was in the Air Force and my best friend since kindergarden, and my boyfriend's best friend. My first night there, they all forgot about the guns scattered around the apartment and told me not to come in the apartment until they told me okay. So they hid all the guns in the gun safe except for a mosin-nagant that was hanging on the wall. They removed the firing pin which still did not ease my anxiety. So the next day, whilst my boyfriend and best friend went to work, my roomate and boyfriend's best friend Drake (i knew him from high school) decided to whip out a hand gun in front of me in the living room, causing an anxiety attack to flare up, but he dismantled it and showed me there was nothing to be afraid of. I spent 2 hours with him and finally touched a gun for the first time in my life. Well later that week they took me to a shooting range to get more comfortable around the sounds of shots being fired. My boyfriend wanted to take his 9 mil Ruger and shoot a couple of shots in it. So, i watched, and every time he shot a round I would jump. Then I decided to get ballsy and ask if I could shoot. Big Mistake My boyfriend stood behind me, close enough to help me if I needed it. I had to stop shaking in order to shoot the gun, and I took my time. I could feel my heartbeat in my throat and I felt like I was about have a nervous breakdown. They were about to pull the plug and just have me watch. I fired the Ruger. I don't remember if I hit the target or not, because my legs gave out underneath me and I passed out. Never have I ever, been so embarassed in my life. Drake had to pull the gun out of my hand and quickly put it on the table in our lane, and try to catch me. My boyfriend ended up catching me from behind in a full nelson type of movement. I had to sit down the rest of the time like a child in time-out -.-
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I can understand the anxiety; the situation was a rattlesnake getting blown away, and that means that all sorts of things wound up associated with firearms for you. I wouldn't feel embarrassed by the whole thing. On the other hand, you sound pretty determined to shoot, so maybe it's just a slow process. I know that I used to freak about getting blood drawn, and then I did a stay in the hospital. You sound determined to try to lick it, and you're making good progress...though if you don't ever want to touch a gun again, don't. My brother got over guns in a hurry after he got bit by the slide on my 1911A1 and wasn't too keen on it from then on. Anyway, one possibility is a nice shooter's bench so you can sit. Like so. (The rest of you can eat your hearts out; that's the Associated Gun Clubs range in Marriotsville, Maryland, one of the premier facilities on the East Coast. There's a reason people from other states come here to sight in their rifles and love to shoot here. As a member of the Baltimore Rifle Club, I have year long free access to this and many other ranges on the facility.)
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Well, I ended up getting to where I am comfortable around guns. I went to the shooting range and was excited to do so. This was over 7 months ago. I'm doing much better and hoping to go for a concealed carry permit. I did have an instance where I thought someone broke into the apartment and was screaming, and I was in the bedroom where me and my boyfriend slept. So I quietly locked the door to my bedroom and assembled his Ruger and did a sweep of the apartment. Turned out it was just my neighbors yelling in the next door apartment And one time we had came home and the apartment door was open, and the boys weren't home yet, so me and my best friend were scared to death, but she told me to stay outside and quietly and slowly went into her bedroom (visible from the front door) and pullled out her shotgun and did a sweep of the apartment. We didn't see anything taken out of the apartment or anyone in, so we just guessed that we just didn't close the door all the way.
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UK person here. I can’t believe guns are so cheap! Can’t say I’ve ever had an interest or looked into in any way, so it’s my own ignorance that leads me to be so shocked – but I assumed they’d actually cost more than say a decent wild night out... But from seeing the prices you're throwing around I’m no longer quite so shocked that everyone seems to own at least seven or eight of them! Again naivety here, but just how easy are they to get? I’d assume that there are very strict checks involved and only a squeaky clean person without any criminal background or mental issues could get one, and even then it’d take a long time? Here the checks usually include interviews, visits to the person’s property, criminal records checks and references from friends. In addition, the applicant’s GP is usually contacted before its even considered. You also have to prove that you actually require your firearm on a regular, legitimate basis for work, sport or leisure. I’m guessing it’s not quite like that?
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UK person here. I can’t believe guns are so cheap! Can’t say I’ve ever had an interest or looked into in any way, so it’s my own ignorance that leads me to be so shocked – but I assumed they’d actually cost more than say a decent wild night out... But from seeing the prices you're throwing around I’m no longer quite so shocked that everyone seems to own at least seven or eight of them! Again naivety here, but just how easy are they to get? I’d assume that there are very strict checks involved and only a squeaky clean person without any criminal background or mental issues could get one, and even then it’d take a long time? Here the checks usually include interviews, visits to the person’s property, criminal records checks and references from friends. In addition, the applicant’s GP is usually contacted before its even considered. You also have to prove that you actually require your firearm on a regular, legitimate basis for work, sport or leisure. I’m guessing it’s not quite like that?
In America, the specifics can vary from state to state, but in general, most rifles and shotguns are cash and carry, you pay and take them home the same day. There's a waiting period and background checks for handguns. In the case of semi-automatic rifles like AR-15's or the IMI Tavor or VEPR (all mentioned in this thread before) there's a variation on regulation, state to state, ranging from the same restriction as handguns to outright banning. The difference here is that we have the 2nd Amendment, which the Supreme Court ruled as an individual right. So by law, we're entitled to the ownership of firearms, and have a more permissive attitude about it. There's a strong lobby that pushes against regulatory measures that ban guns outright, though laws aimed at preventing criminals from acquiring the weapons as well as confiscating them from domestic abusers have gained traction in recent years. Personally, I'm a strong believer in safety, that's why I joined a prestigious rifle club similar to the shooting clubs in other countries with their own ranges and more stringent regulations -- I prefer to shoot on a range being actively supervised by a certified RSO. I've tried indoor ranges with rental weapons and found that they tend to let people be silly with the guns, because they're paying customers. By contrast, the Associated Gun Clubs (of Maryland) has a much more stringent policy toward members that violate safety rules, and the Baltimore Rifle Club has one of the best safety track records of the clubs. (It also doesn't require us to be NRA members, which I consider a boon because I happen to be a bleeding heart liberal for the most part. ;) There's more of us out there owning guns than a lot of people might think given the way the gun culture sometimes is presented.) As to the weapons, they can be cheap, but the price varies, though they've gone up as of about two years ago -- they really shot up on the fear, not a very well-justified one, that there'd be a push to ban guns in America. That effort has mostly fizzled (and, politics for a moment, I tend to predict it's going to generally continue to do so due to demographics in America.) My Sig Sauer is worth about 800 these days, my AR-15 might well be 1500 total before we factor the price of optics and modifications. Surplus and foreign weaponry tends to be considerably cheaper because the ammunition is not widely available and that lowers their worth. So a surplus bolt action rifle can go from roughly 120-400 bucks, depending on type, except for, say, an American Springfield 1903 which fires the commonly available .30-06. Not that I've ever had a problem acquiring Swiss 7.5 or Brit .303. My next acquisition will probably be a Czech or Yugoslavian Mauser, which will be in 7.92, a German round. I expect to pay about 300 for the rifle, and it won't be as hard to find those in good shape the way it was hunting down a couple of Enfields with good bores. The ammo will be the pricey part of owning that rifle, just like the others.
Well, I ended up getting to where I am comfortable around guns. I went to the shooting range and was excited to do so. This was over 7 months ago. I'm doing much better and hoping to go for a concealed carry permit. I did have an instance where I thought someone broke into the apartment and was screaming, and I was in the bedroom where me and my boyfriend slept. So I quietly locked the door to my bedroom and assembled his Ruger and did a sweep of the apartment. Turned out it was just my neighbors yelling in the next door apartment And one time we had came home and the apartment door was open, and the boys weren't home yet, so me and my best friend were scared to death, but she told me to stay outside and quietly and slowly went into her bedroom (visible from the front door) and pullled out her shotgun and did a sweep of the apartment. We didn't see anything taken out of the apartment or anyone in, so we just guessed that we just didn't close the door all the way.
I'm glad you're better with it all. I've lived in a high crime city for years, but have never really been freaked. On the other hand, if the state starts issuing licenses, I'll get one. My shotgun is a home defense deal, but I keep it locked away. It has a really bright tactical light that I recently installed, and it's fairly short and handy for a shotgun. Also, Winchester slides are faster than Remington or Mossbergs.
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