[quote=The Nexerus] Did you start this thread expressly for the purpose of being able to say, "The Pope is going to hell!"?In either case, [/quote] No. In fact, I'm glad the Pope is just fine. I don't want anything to happen to him. I believe his theology is giving people an excuse to combine the Church, both Catholicism and also all other denominations into the rest of the world's religions. I am concerned for his well being, since he seems, at least, to have a sweet spirit of humility and precious compassion. Neither of which gets him into Heaven. Even a man who can be more ethical than Oskar (spelling?) Schindler, more Saintly than Florence Nightengale, and morally wise as Confucius can't get into Heaven in and of themselves. God is needed, directly. Which is why I"m elated to hear Francis is doing well. God could use a man like him, with his generosity and moral sincerity, he could do what no other Pontiff in most of Catholic history has done, Christianize the Catholic Church. Totally. In other words, put back in the Fourth Commandment into the Ten Commandments. Abolish Marianism. ((Pope John Paul II trusted in Mary to get to Heaven, but he was Saved genuinely prior to his statement in Mary getting him there, so he's Saved if that's true). Uh. . . and maybe change the Mass, the Eucharist into being a real Communion. Mass, is presented as cannibalism as it is done and believed in right now for the Roman Catholic Church. The whole body and blood of Jesus thing is metaphorical. He is not advocating Zombie-ism for the Human race. -_-