[quote=BhanSidhe] As for the Zern template that you built, I would go with the d6 for hitdice based on how the Zern seem to me. Also question again about adding a template to yourself, how will that work? Will we just take the levels of it as our monster levels after we complete our monster levels but before we get epic monster levels? [/quote] Oh, forgot about that. I need to set that as levels based on CR. basically as it is CR +3 if I remember right you will have 3 levels of it you can take and you will have to have a certain number normal levels in order to take the next level of a template. So it is basically a cross between alternate bloodlines and a prestige class.