[quote=Jangel13] I changed him up a little but someone please tell me who im mary sue him from? cause it cant be armen or erin since they wanted to go beyond the wall for different reason to just explore while my character wants to build something great. besides my character wants to join the scouts so he can get out and make a new city and the garrison regiment aint going anywhere to begin with. wanting to go outside the wall or wondering whats beyond it cant be considered a mary sue. my character is a carpenter and prefers pacifism against people I had another character I tried but the gm said that was a mary sue to [/quote] I don't think a Mary Sue character is what you think it means. Mary Sure, Is a very loose term for a character that doesn't really have flaws, and just seems a little to unoriginal in that sense. A quick summary of your characters personality: To nice to fight, Hard worker, Funny, Not Violent, Persuasive. All the things to a to-good-to-be-true character Quick summary of his Bio: Helps his dad be a carpenter, To busy working hard to have friends, Mother died giving birth, Stronger than average cause he's a hard worker, Big dreams and ambitions, Wants to leave the walls to build a better place for everyone. Your character doesn't really stand out. It's like someone pulled out the main character from a novel. Your character's inefficiencies are even good: Leaning more to pacifism? How is that an inefficiency To top it all off you didn't read the rules >:c I don't intend to be rude or mean or anything, but maybe reading this will help you further develop your character, maybe even rework his CS and have it acceepted.