[quote=Pepperm1nts] Orders are far too precious to be used on just one thing, Dannaroo. [/quote] What I'm saying is it gives an unfair advantage. What's to stop, say, Mexico from declaring war on China right now and using the three extra war orders to build some ships, increase number of regulars and conduct army drills to increase army level. Then using his 4 normal orders as usual. Mexico has no intention of actually attacking China in any way. China is zero threat to Mexico (it is about to be blockaded/invaded by European powers). So what is to stop someone from doing that to gain an unfair advantage? [quote=So Boerd] Outcast has to keep it close to the vest because there is no interest. If there was interest, then default would simply be when you income was less than debt maintenance [/quote] Yes that is problematic.