[quote=Aragorn] To be perfectly honest, do we NEED bukkit to play mine craft? We wait 3-4 weeks before we get our protection plugins. Big whoop. Yes, I am aware of the rogue griefer, but so far the things they have done have been nothing more than the equivalent of somebody stealing a paperback book. [/quote] The only thing that has stopped griefers from doing more than stealing a paperback book has been Lockette. They've only been able to pop stuff out of item frames to steal because chests have been locked, thus keeping the losses as seeming minimal. If we were to conduct the server move without that plugin in place, that would mean our chests of stuff would all be sitting there completely unprotected and vulnerable to any asshole who wants to steal things. As we have seen from past griefing bullshit there are indeed thieves lurking about on the server, though the most they've been able to get away with is horse armor and clocks due to the aforementioned protection, so it's a real concern. So I would say that we do indeed need Bukkit, and I don't think it's a good idea to update and start up the server without it and the Lockette plugin in place.