[quote=mdk] Have you... like.... talked to people before? Those are two outlandishly rare outcomes. The only person besides me with such an incredible track record is Rush Limbaugh, and goddamn *nobody* admits they're wrong and comes away better for it. Your point makes perfect sense in magic-happy-land. Here, all evidence says that's not the way it goes.But that's beside the point, because Communication is great. Communication which only happens on the premise that one person must prove themselves and prove the other person is typically asinine and fruitless (case and point: every off-topic ever) -- but let's not let that distract us from the benefits of a constructive dialogue. ....then after that I can't follow what you're getting at. [/quote] Again you're thinking of this when one or two parties have a point (opinion) to prove, in order for it to actually be effective, in fact - any advancement in the way people think, it often dealt with a demograph experiencing something 1st hand, having what negative thing that needs to be changed, brought to the surface. Or, have it be beneficial enough, that those with the means to, would openly communicate it across a board of things,. In online youtube comment wars, i'm not expecting good communication, but also take in mind that communication on the internet is entirely different to that in real life. People aren't as batshit stuck in their views as much as we think, and when they are, it's all just a matter of depolarizing their emotional spikes towards it. That's far more achievable offline than it is on. Also, meaningful communication [b]is[/b] for the sake of getting your experience or perspective across, when it's able to be transferred and objectively verified, that's the best result, it empowers the person who's receiving it. If i'm not making myself clear, feel free to tell me what points and i'll try and explain it in a better way.