[quote=ActRaiserTheReturned] Okay, so assume our people have 12,000,000 rebels against our current military? We'd be put down. :/I don't think that the Naturalists could win with a futuristic setting unless there's like 1 Technocrat per 20,000 Naturalists or more. [/quote] Who's to say they'd even meet on the same field, or if naturalism automatically implies that the naturalists would rather fight a tank with a spear than an anti-tank rifle. Both sides could theoretically use the same weapons or tools, but in the end want to see them used to different ends. Or both sides are effectively as different as the UFLL and APR. Which is to say: there's nothing different at all, just words. [youtube]ign0ZdcCD2k[/youtube]