[quote=Senor Herp] That's not even a state anymore, let alone a fatass Qing Chinese one, I've been turned into Taiwan! A Taiwan with NO COAST. What gives with the reactionary land-chopping over idle quibblings about there being more large states than normal, eh? [/quote] Orc China could be in the throes of a warlord era which, as far as I know with your history, wouldn't be entirely out of line. Hence the loss of control in a number of regions. (you were too big though okay but still three regions is pretty brutal.)