Oh hai Vance. I don't mind you venting on that topic, but let's just hope the newbie doesn't wander in here and get offended XD I must say that in regards to people thumbing around without a heading, I more often than not see GMs that are content to pitch a fit about it but not do much to actually address the problem. They seem to think everyone ought to make their own little events inside a greater one. They give you a war, and then they complain when people indecisively mill about wondering what to do. Are they all supposed to invent a small battle to dick around in? When did they become responsible for getting things done in the RP? I like that most of the people here are confident enough to give people something more specific to do, because I really feel like going back in time and slapping the people I'm thinking of for just expecting everyone to get moving on their own. Fyi, I happened to be amongst the few enterprising people that made their own fun in the example I'm thinking of. I still got pissed that the GM seemed to think it was everyone's fault but their own.