[quote=Magic Magnum] Being perfectly honest, I'd rather we have some journalist be afraid to journalist than have game developers be afraid to develop games cause of bias ratings.That being said, both are still bad things to happen obviously. We need to be working towards making game journalism honest again, not sending game journalist out the door. [/quote] You honestly put games over journalistic freedom of speach. Really? One of them is enterteinment and reviews. The other is DEATH THREATS and shitstorms against what is considered the cornerstone of democracy; free speach.. Just really, really. What kind of priorities do you have here? Baffeling. I am sorry, games is second, fuck, it is eleventh to something like that. Gamedevs themselves are also afraid of doing the games they want, not for reviews but becouse getting anything popular means you gotta deal with entitled kids who think they know games better then them. Becouse if they try something this bloated ego of a collective deems as "not good enough" they are gonna get shit on worse then any review could. A bad review is a bad review, it isn't the nd of the world. Most good games tend to get good reviews regardless of message. Some games like "Gone home" Get good reviews for what in concept was good, and the reviewers liked it enough for the whole message. In that case it is taste, and where they put the importance. If you don't like it, start reviewing yourself. Don't attack poeple becouse they think differently lest perhaps, it leads in to straight up harmfull behavior; See racism. Then engage them in open, logical debate. When actual explenations are brought forth, when clear stances are showned it is nothing but scorn in return. This is not about honesty anymore. Anyone disagreeing with them is a traitor and a target for a large portion of this whole thing. A campaign for honesty engages in trying to open discussion, it doesn't attack without substantial proof. You allready proven right there Gwazi, that you hold your own enterteinment higher then freedom of speach. That alone signals to me that you are acting out of entitlement, not out of a honest desire to change something for the better. You are ofcourse, free to prove me wrong. The gamer fanbases are also entitled as all hell, I should know, I have gotten upset about some really crappy things. But I mean really, really entitled. To qoute a article I read just earlier "Were were the organized outcry when companies were hiring models to mingle and sway male game journalists. Were was the rage when real evidence of bribes was being brought up. " There was none, becouse gamers still got their games. They didnt have to care about such things as guilt, sexism and femism. They didn't care less then. They cared a whole lot when suddenly the games they like got questioned. They cared suddenly about keeping journalism honest when the games THEY didn't like got good reviews. I'm sorry, but that is extremely off putting and dishonest no matter how you look at it from a outside perspective. Dipper; Where are the proof that they are fake.(No seriusly, I am very interested in this. I googled it and at best I found super circumstatial and unsubstantial claims.) You have goddamn Fbi on the case now. If anything is faked it will show up in their investigation. Please provide substatial proof. I am not saying; go home and forget it. I am saying gamergate is not working, and if you have any semblence of contextual sense, you should realize that association with them is painting you in a bad light. And you know, every time anyone say anything against you, you throw stuff like "Moronic" "you gotta be kidding me." Earlier you said even said someone wished for rape, pretty much proving how fucked up your view of things are. I mean, you are pretty much showing up with nothing substantial. Yes, you are you. But you are also what you associate with. And you associate with GamerGate who harbors less then reasonable folk. And what can you prove, exactly? And you are proving nothing but confrontational, unreasonable. If you want to provide a argument, I suggest you take a look at how Bravo provides his. I don't agree with everything the man says. But atleast he actually provides proper counter arguments and intelligent discussion. Another thing, you streghtened the stance of SJW everwhere. They are seen as good guys more so then before. And trust me, I do not like most of them. But damn if 4chan and gamer gate and that bullshit have made them look like fucking angels.