[quote=Dipper] Soia there even a point in debating this with you Hellis, or are you going to just keep doing mental gymnastics and taking what everyone said out of context while defending someone from all critisim, while pretending you are against them? Because every post you've made has been that. [/quote] [2] I'm basically ready to say "Your posts will be treated as non-existent until you stop vilifying one side and making the other immune from criticism".