[quote=LeeRoy] By champion athletes do you mean boxing or weight lifting? Because that's two totally different veins of strength, though both of which would barely put you into Tier 2. 20x the running speed of a normal human is only 160mph. Again, within the range of Tier 2. [/quote] I would assume he means wrestlers, as that's the example he gives to help quantify the strength. I was also under the impression that the limit for tier 2 speed was 80mph.