[quote=Monochromatic Rainbow] Could we ask just how powerful this magic is when not shifted? That might help, as we know it gets more powerful shifted, and less so when not, but we don't know by what degree.So obviously we can all kick ass when shifted, but is our magic when not little more than sleight-of-hand? Or would it provide maybe a passive boost to certain abilities (Strength for our giant, either strength/agility for the Valkyrie, speed/agility for the Kitsune, etc...?)That might help clear things up and save a lot of headache.Sorry to hear about your headache btw, Mach. Hope you feel better. [/quote] It's not a lot when not Shifted. Lily, for example, would have a higher agility, be faster, and able to weave small illusions, but nothing big or extremely convincing. Your alice, for example, would be a bit stronger and faster, as well as tougher, but nowhere near what she is when Shifted. She wouldn't be able to fly nor really use her "Boosting" magic. I'd say that Non-Shifted = 5% of your Shifted power. You're still notably stronger than a normal human, but you get much, much more powerful when you Shift.