[quote=Magic Magnum] Depends on the definition of feminism.-If you mean third-wave, as in the belief/idea that women are always discriminated against, men suck *yadda yadda probably the shit you said you didn't want to debate about*. [/quote] That is second wave feminism, not third wave. Third wave feminism is more "Capitalism/medicine/religion is inherently patriarchal." One of these days, I will need to make a clarifications chart, so people stop using "first/second/third wave feminism" and "radical feminism" incorrectly. If you are going to criticise the movement that has nearly eradicated misogyny in the west, at least do it with correct terminology.