[quote=code gary] you shouldnt be surprised, since if youre going to mark that down so seriously ill be ready to hound down all the other fallacies you knowingly commit. this isnt debate team or some facilitated academic discussion, theres something that doesnt let internet arguements get to that point, but i think you dont want to realize that at the risk of getting your feelings hurt [/quote] Why don't you head back over to spam where you can relive the glory days of when you thought you were the coolest person on the guild - If I remember Spam's history of Cool correctly. Acting like you are acting now is what got you Perma'd on the Old Guild.