[quote=Magic]If someone see's issues with the voting system, they would in at least some sense be hypocritical by voting[/quote]

While true, ASTA has a problem with the government at large. And rather than using the legal tool she(?) has, she instead complains about it. My argument isn't 'fix the voting system by voting!' My argument is 'don't just complain about it and leave it at that. Try and do something about it!' And it may fail, because majority rules, but it's better than going 'this sucks. Something needs to be done.' And then just doing nothing.

[quote=mdk]
Currently true. In a primal USA, the early constitution set it up so that you voted for your local reps, and *they* picked your senators. That was changed in the 17th amendment. Which is a mistake[/quote]

Wait, your going to have to explain this to me. How is choosing one better than being able to choose both?