[quote=GourmetItalia]That doesn't sound reassuring or acceptable, progress related. Education is a huge reward if aggressively and properly pursued. I can't verify all claims, but you seem to know a great deal more than I so on my end, it sounds very unfortunate to hear about what seems to be stagnation in reliable specialists within many Turkish nationals. The one mark of progress within a nation stems from the educated work force and the country's own self sufficient qualities. If a nation's own local citizens are filling the work force and conducting the majority of the nation's specialized fields, that goes a long ways, both in costs and in maintaining sustainable infrastructure. I can only hope that Turkey's future generations will continually improve the country's economic, educational, and infrastructural foundations.I would like to ask, though. What good and meritable achievements have the Turks yielded within the past 40 or 50 years?[/quote] Despite all the bad stuff going on, we've produced a lot of incredibly good literature and poetry in my opinion. Also, some excellent historians. Though we've been running short on those for the last 20-30 years. Some good music, too. But only some.