I think Zur's concern is that he, I, and others have developed our histories (and material/social culture) with 4000 BCE in mind: no strong consolidated states, no bronze or iron working, no "true" cities (only proto-cities), and certainly not multiple well-developed cities with monumental architecture. On the other hand, others, like Balena_Rex and DAWNSTAR, seem to have incredibly developed and centralized polities for the era. However, no one has intervened to clarify which model is the "correct one." Should Zur and I be adding bigass cities and armies and histories of ironshod conquest to our apps? Are we shooting ourselves in the foot by trying to follow the guidelines more strictly?