[quote=Magic Magnum]Agreed, Canada already proves that.[/quote]If the Canadian health care system was so great then why do Canadians choose to come to America for their health care needs? http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/top-canadian-politician-chooses-us-health-care http://archive.freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/908200420/Canadians-visit-U-S-get-health-care http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/21/canadians-crossing-the-border-for-u-s-health-care/ If the Canadian health care system was so great then why do Canadians use outdated surgery techniques, rationing & delaying health care? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/02/canadas-warning-against-government-health-care/ If the Canadian health care system was so great then why is sophisticated diagnostic equipment scarce and growing scarcer? As in Washington state (Population: 4.6 million) has more MRIs than the country of Canada (Population: 26 million). http://fee.org/the_freeman/detail/national-health-insurance-a-medical-disaster If the Canadian health care system was so great then why are patients denied care, forced to cope with increasingly antiquated hospitals and equipment, and can die while waiting for treatment (as in never getting any treatment in the first place)? http://fee.org/the_freeman/detail/national-health-insurance-a-medical-disaster If the Canadian health care system was so great then why are standards far below those of the United States? http://fee.org/the_freeman/detail/national-health-insurance-a-medical-disaster If the Canadian health care system was so great then why are a growing chorus of Canadians, including many former champions of socialized medicine, are calling for return to a market-based system? http://fee.org/the_freeman/detail/national-health-insurance-a-medical-disaster The Canadian health care system looks like a joke to me, a joke that is murdering Canadian citizens. [quote=Magic Magnum]Once a civilization reaches certain thresholds there are certain luxuries (food, water, shelter etc.) that become rights.[/quote]Luxuries can never be rights.