[quote=Lucius Cypher] Challenge accepted! Though this is easier to do outside of Deep Ground. Donny won't really try to convince her that he isn't a maniac, so much as convince her he became one, and how he managed to use that experience to create the Mayhem Riders. This way, they both can go through a tragic fall out when Tender Fern sides with the Black King about shutting down Deep Ground, where as Arms Slave would fight her because fighting in Deep Ground is all that gives his life purpose at the moment. She'd need to do a bit to convince Donny that there's more to life than just fighting in Deep Ground, but without her help all he thinks he can do is hurt people.[/quote] Well you know what. I'm convinced now. Because that sounds so well thought out and dramatic that it would be fun. Plus it's probably exactly what will happen with both their characters anyhow.