But, that's exactly it. You just said the main issue I have:
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It might just be fine -- maybe the more advanced nations are smaller. 
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Captios specifically said in the original post, as I quoted earlier, "still no nations". There can't be more advanced nations cause there are none. The application process was clear that we were to make cultures, not countries. The existence of hundreds of years of history for a fully functioning polity in 4,000 BC is completely contradictory to actual history. Now, if Captios thinks it's alright, it's alright, and that's fine with me. I am simply expressing my own worries that some of us did not meet the prompt in the first place. I never once said make a move without Captios saying so, I've simply been expressing this whole time that I'd like to know where we stand on the issue.