[quote=Jorick]So the moral of the story here is that we all want the Guild to be a great place, we just have differing standards and opinions about what that means. That's not something we should be fighting each other about, so keeping any discussion on the matter civil is really in the best interests of everyone involved. [/quote] I think this is the most important part to keep in mind. We don't always get a lot of good examples in politics of people showing class and graciousness towards those whom disagree, so I can understand why we grow up thinking that debate consists of insults and contempt, but the Guild can be better than the political establishments of our respective countries. ;)