[quote=Blaze96]
I actually liked playing a dwarf, got a few fun times out of their naturally impressive strength and constitution in D&D next. Pair that with heavy armor, champion fighting style, and a warhammer and you can be a god until mid-levels certainly. The slower speed actually came in handy as some of the faster characters botched their roles and needed help getting up in an escape. While the faster characters booked it out, my dwarf was far enough back he could help them up without turning back. Also lead to a great scene of my character jumping out of a tree to smash in a hellhound's skull. Beating him one on one with no backup. Also, you can get some decent characterization and friction out of them. Like my character hates an Avenging Paladin because my dwarf's people were conquered and enslaved by a dragon. So while my dwarf is kind of trying to restore his people here's this guy talking about building a chapel to his god in their hometown, and trying to convert as many people as possible to a god who can generously be described as lawful neutral from what my character has seen.
[/quote]

Nice story. Good example of how you can turn a drawback (slow) into an advantage. 

[quote=Enalais]
Dwarves aren't played because people want to be what they can't be and that is perfect. Elves are easily considered a "Perfect" race, humans can be made "Perfect" but dwarves are gruff, dirty, and loud mouthed drunkards so thus far from that perfection sterotype.
[/quote]

That's a good point you're making, and talking about this with others in my gaming groups I've formed a similiar view myself. Playing av elf is kind of like ”easy-mode”, while dwarves have higher demands on character gaming and planning to make them work. But do you think that the problem is that the elves are ”good” rather than that the dwarves are ”bad”?

[quote=Corsair]
I would dispute that. Anyone who's played Perfect knows that Perfect is boring as all hell, and the idea of Elves as perfect is a rather flawed one. They aren't perfect in Tolkien, that's for damn sure. Evil, selfish, cruel Elves abound in Middle-Earth. They appear perfect in LotR because their major representatives are the two most noble members of their race - Elrond and Galadriel. Legolas comes across as an arrogant, racist dick who through the course of the story has his rough edges - edges placed there by his father's dickish nature - worn away.
[/quote]

That is very true, but it is easy to make the elves perfect. Just make them a bit more liberal and accepting of other races and you've got the full package. 

[quote=Ellri]
even knowing that perfect ain't much fun, people strive for it. ain't that a nice paradox?even though its not really true, a lot of people do believe that elves are superior to dwarves. one nice option to avoid that is to craft an RP where elves aren't available while dwarves are.
[/quote]

I have thought of that too, but I think that if elves aren't in the game then people will flock to the humans, and ”all-human” doesn't go along with ”fantasy” in my mind. I've also had a thought of a game where the elves are the primary enemy, and describing them as beautiful, but also vile and deceptive. Very old norse. In this one I fear that people won't even give it a chance because their perfect precious darling elf has been turned into the villain. Would be fun though, just to see what happens.