[quote=The Grey Dust] Another Abstract Abomination Appears.This should be... interesting.The progression of types of gods.The Materials and the Abstracts.Of the Materials: the Primals (elementals, ex Sand), and the Ideals (changers, ex Hunt)Of the Abstracts: The Forces (personifications, ex Time), and the Concepts (avatars, ex Nothingness) [/quote] Empyron is a cross between Primal and Ideal.