[quote=@Hebigami Shiho] [quote=@Kal-El] [quote=@Raijinslayer] [quote=@22xander] -_- is that supposed to be me? Also Nero could probly be counted as a wizerd saint, the old master who's magic along with several other's were infused into the rings was, but he would feel vaulnerable and think that they would comment on how young he is, and looks. [/quote] I think that your pushing it with that Xander. Remember, your character is under observation to make sure he doesn't become to OP. I would recommend not adding something like that to it, just leave it the way it is, but that just my opinion. [/quote] I think I'm the only one who doesn't see Xander as OP whatsoever. Do you know who is actually OP lowkey....Nathan. Vector Manipulation is ungodly powerful even when not used to it's full potential . [/quote] Both of them are OP in comparison to the other characters, with more balanced things and magic. In this case, Xander is so OP that he could take on Nathan without much problem. He's a mageslayer, after all, maybe there's also a way to counter him. 'Sides, Nathan ain't got a barrier that doesn't allow him to be touched (I think). But yeah, please refrain (Everyone) from getting irrational boosts of power, or you'll get a roundhouse kick to the face. [/quote] Not really. Vector Manipulation doesn't have a real counter and he does have a shield. Xander doesn't begin to compare (no offense whatsoever) to that. If anyone has seen Majutsu no Index aka A certain Magical Index or read it then you'll see why. Xander's counters mostly allow him to use what the other person is using but it doesn't account for skill and other benefits. Example1: He has no counter to Red Hawk's claws and fortification magic which is caster or if he did, he'd still need to be able to match Red Hawk's speed, strength, and martial arts. Example2: Countering a dragonslayer's element with his own element wouldn't do much. They are pretty much immune to their own element unless it's another slayer (Devil or God) and they'd just eat it. I'm not nagging or anything. Just my observation. He could become OP though. I see many ways in which he could along with Nathan. Dudes could go crazy powerful later on. Fun conversations are Fun. [quote=@22xander] I'm still not sure how I should respond :p. Oh and he really can't do much to the vector dude except sneak past his vector shield with shadow travel. and once the guy gets wind of it, Nero has got nothing on him. [/quote] His Shield appears to be automatic. So it would push you back regardless. Though I know the weakness to it and I'm sure my character would understand since they've been in the same guild for years. Diffuclt though. Nathan is the one character i'm most of afraid of honestly. Which makes this ALL the more fun.