[quote=@Art of Fun] I'm not sure where the 700+ statistic came from, unless you're referring to the Church investigations which were over a [i]supposed[/i] grail, in which case that's inherently different from the Holy Grail War and should not be compared to one another. The reason it's considered a pittance is because it is backwater for an association magus (Japan/Asia in general and all that) and because of the three families involved in its creation, only one is noteworthy to a western magus, and even then they're recluses who barely communicate with anyone. As far at the Fate/Stay Night line is concerned, there have only been 5 Holy Grail Wars in the sense of the grand ritual. The Fate/Zero war is the 4th HGW. The only glimpse we have of any war prior to that is in Fate H/A where the characters are forced into the role of the participants of the 3rd HGW. [/quote] Thanks for clearing it up, Art of Fun. I had thought that The Silver Paladin was referring to the Holy Grail Wars, not just a normal Grail War. [quote=@Art of Fun] Fate/Extra takes place in the Moon Cell, which sort of allows for additional bullshittery because it's essentially a stronger, alien grail. Also on the Moon. [/quote] Which also means that the same class of "Saver" can be applied for the RP, because the story in the RP also involves alien tech, essentially those incorporated by the Incubators. The lore behind their species is largely unknown as of the current canon anyway, so we could just make it up as we go along. And besides, I doubt anyone's really going to apply for "Jesus".