[quote=@Dualbellatorum]
*Smacks head against the wall* Well that's it, I'm out. What a fucking joke. Is this how you guys play RPs? Someone makes one, and then you join, but rather than post, you start trying to take up a fight where there's no battle? I thought it was odd that this site's NRP section was a bit dead-ish looking, but now I think I understand why.
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Is this how you GM RPs? Jumping out whenever someone dares to go against your opinion (In this case, cracking because of a one-line post about a lot of resources making a risen nation)? Here. I'm gonna post my argument here so you can go ahead and read it, which you won't, because you're apparently too angry to do anything but insult people who thought you had a good idea and were willing to pour significant amounts of their time into said idea.

I would highly suggest that you read my interview in RPGN. Maybe you'll learn a tiny bit about how to GM an NRP. Or RP in general. Because you seem to need help with that.

[quote=@Dualbellatorum]
I'm sorry, maybe I should have explained what is meant by "Rise of Nations". So, our nations aren't really alive yet. They're ideals, floated by people that have so far banded together and fronted a working society. They're not pre-built. They're not "there". They're "rising", and that is to say, they're being built. By any and all means necessary.

If your nation started with 350,000 people, and occupied Florida. Well, it isn't rising is it? It's an established power, it's [i]risen[/i]! 

If you're telling me that NONE of you have any idea of how to found and establish a nation, then Great Scot! Turn that imagination machine of yours on, and stop relying on that set-menu mentality.
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I get that, these aren't nations. The thing is, if you're expecting us to somehow make a nation over the course of this roleplay, you're mistaken. Gravely mistaken. Let's assume that every woman has five children. It's practically inevitable that the majority of those will die from disease (try getting antibiotics to even [i]work[/i]this far in the future). If we decide to be ludicrously optimistic, that leaved two children. If we go at the (quite fast, mind you) pace of one page=one year, that means fourteen or fifteen pages until a working population double. To get any kind of "nation" going, we'd have to have quite a few of those. If we keep going by this, it's 96 pages until we reach 160,000, which is kinda sorta enough to have a large town. Still not any nations, and of course, people died in that 96 year period. So let's keep going. 1,280,000 comes 144 pages later, and at that point we would have a major city-sized population. This is 144 years later. If we assume that everyone avoided industrialization like a plague (which they definitely didn't, because shipbuilding is already a thing), then we'd finally have low population density nations.

So yeah. It would take a hundred pages to get there. Now, let's think about these "colonies" you seem to have planned. At this point, humanity is spread out and not industrialized (If we are industrialized by then, which we will be, then we still don't have any nations until perhaps even 200 pages), nobody is founding a colony by then. These colonies would only happen around 200 pages, which is a random guess based off of the fact that the entire planet is trying to kill us, there will totally be wars, NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE MENTIONED, and diseases exist in general.

And that's if I'm being optimistic.

As I said before: NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE MENTIONED. THEY EXIST AND CAN BE USED. If I was being more realistic in my predictions? The point of colonization would never be reached due to nuclear war killing the vast majority of everyone.

Now, let's change gears and talk about your last comment. "If you're telling me that NONE of you have any idea of how to found and establish a nation, then Great Scot! Turn that imagination machine of yours on, and stop relying on that set-menu mentality."

I hope that was sarcasm. We're a bunch of random people from all over the world, and I'd be willing to bet that none of us are fucking George Washington or Alexander the Great. Some of us may not even know how to [i]drive[/i] yet. What do you expect us to do with a few thousand people? Invent mass cloning and extreme genetic manipulation?