That's not the damn point though. The point is that somehow the Chinese have the technological know-how to go to space, but Europeans don't have the know-how to make goddamn jets, all because a few scientists died and they had to fight a war for a few extra years. But backward-ass China's just fine. You're talking resources when I'm talking know-how. EDIT: I am not arguing Europeans should be in space too. I am arguing that if the Chinese can somehow reach space, Europeans ought to have some fuckin' jets. It doesn't make sense for them to be stunted like that while China's flying around in space. If China has the know-how for that, then the Europeans ought to have the know-how to build some goddamn jets, at the very least.