This puts me in a precarious position, something I do not like. I have gone over Vahir's nation sheet, and have to admit I believe his is a good concept. It doesn't fit into the classic militaristic entities we usually end up with, but instead would focus on mercantile exploits. The fact it was already worked out and posted might mean several things: A) You did not read what was written. B) You did read but did not care. Also, you were so keen on playing this merchant state you were either rash or trying to push this through. Furthermore, I think you have not given it a proper chance. [quote=@Sini]You work with what you have, not with everything you wished for. Not to say I am unreasonable and will not work things out with a player. This mechanic is simply in place to avoid unsurmountable "God Nations".[/quote] I would have been more than glad to work something out with you, [@Vahir] since you were clearly not aiming to play something all-powerful. As [@ethanjory] and [@gowia] said, I'm always up to discuss things. I even stated as such in my opening post, right [i]under[/i] the part where I explain this roll-system is in place. However, I cannot very well do that without the consent of the rest of the players for reasons of fairness. It wouldn't add up to let you just do your thing while the rest have to adhere to the rule and rolls. It pains me you just left without trying to look for a solution, but that is your good right. [quote=@Vahir] No offense, but I find this mechanic stifles creativity, and puts too much focus on game mechanics on the game mechanics, instead of the RP. [/quote] I understand what you say, but strongly disagree. There are no other mechanics in place. This is just a precaution, providing a base to work off. It is there for a reason and past experiences with certain people. Also, if you look closely it does not determine TOO much, just provide building stones. Have you read the rolls? [quote=@Vahir] I see why you guys want to do here, and why you do, and it just isn't for me. I'm going to bow out here and leave you folks to it. [/quote] While I never enjoy people leaving roleplays, I am afraid this might lead to a bad start. No hard feelings, though, I think you would be a great addition to this RP and setting. If you do change your mind, please let me know. I did like your mercantile city-state.