[quote=@Cyclone] That fixed it, thanks. On an unrelated note, [@gowia] [@Terminal] Want to have a trade route between our nations? The Drastonian Empire has food and spices, while mine has more in terms of metals as well as some large cities that would have finished goods. Fulmen Nati would be conveniently placed about halfway down the trade route for ships, so it could be involved too. [/quote] The Fulmen Nati, I suspect, would not be formally recognized as a nation per se. The organization you'd be dealing with would be The Free Family (check them out in the NS), and they'd have what you want. Here's some cold hard supply and demand for all of us: [hider=The Bottom Line][b]Dominion:[/b] [u]Mineral Deposits[/u] - Rich deposits of metals and minerals such as copper, lead, coal, usable stone. [u]Valuable Mineral Deposits[/u] - Trace deposits of rare earth metals. [u]Unique Materials[/u] - dyes, leather, sugar [b]Drastonia:[/b] [u]Mineral Deposits[/u] - Minimal deposits of metals and minerals. [u]Valuable Mineral Deposits[/u] - Trace deposits of rare earth metals, predominantly silver, some marble quarries. [u]Unique Materials[/u] - Spices, hardwood [b]Fulmen Nati:[/b] [u]Mineral Deposits[/u] - Rich deposits of metals and minerals such as copper, lead, coal, usable stone. [u]Valuable Mineral Deposits[/u] - Trace deposits of rare earth metals. [u]Unique Materials[/u] - incense, dyes, ivory[/hider] Looking at our positions on the map (which really needs to be updated, and Cyclone, your link on the forum is broken - I had to manually follow the embedded html back to your imagur library), one problem at hand is that for the Dominion's shipping to reach Drastonia, they'll need to sail around Iugulum Mot. If they sail within sight of the shoreline, this will cause problems akin to sailing too close to Old Valyria. Sailing way far off the coast is possible, but likely impractical and time consuming - if nothing else, Dominion shipping heading that way will likely be issuing several formal and extended complaints. Meanwhile, the situation with shipping to the Fulmen Nati is complicated by the fact that a Warlord controls roughly half the Southern borders of Nati land, based out of Mollis Latus. All direct land shipments will likely be raided and sacked, you'd have to take the long way around to get to Radix Arx or Respicit Fulmen. Worse, if you go too far East, you get slammed by the Satus and Baleosus warlords. Your only viable route for circumventing the Nati lands is to go through Arhus. Drastonia and the Free Family should have a considerably easier time of trading with one another. Iugulum mot isn't in the way of naval shipping, and as long as they don't mind dealing with Vathcras even land convoys shouldn't have too much trouble, and the Free Family would likely be able to arrange safe passage for caravans into Baleosus. As for raw materials - Drastonia appears to have a shortage of metals and minerals, and could probably use the dye and incense (unsure about the ivory). The Free Family would be interested in their silver and spices, moreso in the latter. They don't have much use for silver since the Nati lack any kind of official currency, so they probably only want it as a trade good they can sell to other nations - in which case they'll probably try to undercut you on silver trading, since they'll be relying on selling it back for more than they paid.