Torrential didn't answer right away. Dancer's answer required some thought before he offered anything even close to an answer. Much longer then they were going to be sitting here at any rate. "That... is a much better answer then I was expecting Dancer. I've never considered that point of view before and I will have to dedicate some time to explore it fully. Then again, with Sweeper involved I'm honestly not that surprised that a question that is meant to have a black and white answer would instead come up orange in practice." A slight chuckle escaped the alicorn, an amused smirk on his face for a flicker of a moment before it vanished once more. "You know, I'm honestly glad that Sweeper is doing the world a great deal of good in her own way. She's a lot smarter the she lets on and I fully expect to see great things come about because of her." It wasn't much of a confession, but saying it out loud seemed to cause Torrential to completely relax in his spot next to the somewhat smaller Star Dancer. "I suspect a lot of her success is going to be coming from the fact that she doesn't care about what shape the world is, just as long as it's clean and the beings she likes are happy... Well, that and a healthy supply of tea and biscuits." For a moment, Torrential pondered if he should bring up what he was about to say; If it was appropriate for him to inform a mortal pony of the faults of one of those considered his betters. The answer was of course 'Yes', but he was going to do it anyway. "I honestly suspect that whatever world comes about due to Sweeper's involvement is going to be a much healthier, stronger one then what Celestia had managed for so long. It'll definitely be cleaner at any rate." Foreseeing the need for an explanation, Torrential turned to gaze at Dancer as he continued "Celestia and Luna are the Second Born. Created by our mother after the Lords of Harmony and Discord in order to control and guide the Sun, the Moon and the other heavenly lights. By their very nature they are beings of Harmony and Order, which many ponies seem to consider to be the same thing. The problem is that to Celestia, stability is more important then anything else. Whether she intended to or not, she more or less turned Equestria into a segregated government with a class system; Earth ponies doing the physical labor, Pegasus ponies controlling the weather, Unicorns in the higher educated upper class and of course Alicorns ruling over everypony else." Torrential took a quick breath before asking his companion "Can you see the issues with such a system, my dear Dancer?"