[quote=@Vanguardian] He doesn't really "hold" France, he is just using it as an NPC. He doesn't for say, control it. If I would have him release a part of land, it would be either India or the North American holdings. Either way, that standard is allowed for any person to join, so you could, for say, form a giant join Russo Chinese Empire. [/quote] Then why can't I use France?