[@Rilla] hmm maybe not for the first one, cause I'm itching to fight a lot of you guys in a tournament. Definatley the next one though! [@Innue] Thats a great map, itd be great if you submitted that into the Arena thread!, however sometimes its better to leave the properties and placement of some maps a little more vague, if its a fairly basic match anyway, at least for newer players so they dont have to take into account character placement and speed of getting to point A to point B, even as an Intermediate I find all of that very difficult to keep my head all the way round. It definitely has its place in more advanced matches though.