[quote=@Tuujaimaa] Being in the same tier does not make you equal to somebody in power level. It puts you in an equal category that is based upon the upper and lower limits of the available scope of powers within the tier. If I'm playing a pyromancer who is in the same tier as a viking with a metal shield, and melting metal with fire is in the scope of my power, I would very much expect to be able to melt your shield with fire unless you have something specifically preventing that action. I would not be happy to accept that your shield was unaffected because of the tier that you are in. Logic should take precedence over all else, and the rules should adequately reflect the logic of combat without providing excuses to mismatch power levels in either direction. [/quote] Find me a man who can shoot fire from his hands and come back to me on how logic should dictate post by post combat. Of course, melting metal with fire requires incredibly high temperatures, and would essentially allow you to kill any character even up to the supernatural tier instantaneously, which is why the system is in place. You wouldn't be allowed to fight anyone you could kill instantly unless they for some reason accepted a fight that unfair. So in that made up scenario, your fire wouldn't be that hot, and even if it were the nature of fire being shot out of your hands that hot would cause a huge number of other 'logical' problems for your mage, who would have to be fireproof past the level of that metal, giving him a supernatural durability many times above that tier level. At which point, because we're fighting and somehow the same tier level, I would use whatever ballshit logic argument you were using to stay alive while shooting furnace heat from your hands to say the fire had cooled and deflections of heat significantly reduce its ability to melt. Logic is shit like that.