[quote=@WilsonTurner] I play that game I play on, what was it, "Epic" length mode, that way I actually have time to beat the crap out of Rome before they win in the Science Victory, Culture Victory, and whatever else there was. (Though I did win the Diplomatic Victory- nuclear weapons were used to cower everyone but Rome, and lots of money was used to keep Rome isolated from City States. I eventually just VOTED myself as the World Leader or whatever. I had THAT many votes.) [/quote] In every game i played: -always a single wonderwhoring civ that has a score a few hundred ahead of mine -civs that are supposed to be warmongers are pretty tame -India (I always set him on for a challenge) gets beaten the crap out of by someone else before they even unleash nuclear doom -whenever they survived they're still two eras behind everyone else -(supposedly) warmonger civs build too many units to the point of negative 150 gpt and still in classical era when everyone else is in the industrial era -[i]"Your City Converted"[/i] -[i]"Great Library has been built in a far away land!"[/i] is always first -use one engineer on a wonder, next turn, [i]Wonderwhore has completed the same wonder because fuck you[/i] -if Greece is there: [i]"[Your city-state ally] has a new Ally!"[/i] -wonderwhore typically too far away to even attack