[quote=@Tuujaimaa] I'm a fairly abrasive person, and I am often far too quick to throw words around - in that you're correct. I'm sorry for having been offensive. In this instance, I wasn't referring specifically to you. You have taken some of Innue's points on board and I laid you for at least having made the effort to try. It is something that a lot of people have not done. [/quote] Fair enough, I too suffer from the same problem and it usually takes a while before people catch on to those sorts of nuances about a person and accept them. Any community has that early teething problem, the Arena being as small as it is probably leads to it being considered insular by some, but I would only argue that we know each other fairly well for the most part, so our arguments and debating seem unusual until you get used to them. I would never have it said that the majority of us don't try our utmost to encourage newcomers, but in anything competitive like this there is always the potential of pretty heated debates over regulations and rules, and change to systems that have worked fairly well for the past three years or so is hard for that reason. Yoshua, I understand the point you're making sits somewhere between the two points of view, though don't get me wrong my response wasn't one out of irritation in this case, I was just pointing out how certain uses of language can cause irritation and have done in the past.