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I realize it may not be the most accurate scenario, but the way I have it setup makes things a lot easier on me.
You asked people to help with other countries. I can help smoothing things out as much as my time allows it.
As I said, UK couldn't have dodged participating in WW1. If their anti-french sentiments win out at best it means the Entente never forms and instead each nation would fight the Central Powers individually. Which would sure give an advantage to Germans regardless.
Letting the Germans pass through Belgium is just an overkill.
Similarly if the German leadership realizes it's stupid to provoke the USA when they have their hands full it can help their efforts a great deal.
As for outcome, the war would've ended long before conquering France and the Central Powers would be satisfied to only take the colonies and some disputed land (plus portions they had already conquered).
I predict this version of WW1 ending in 1917, maybe even before the Bolsevik uprising concludes.
The lack of knowledge on the uprising's success may give them the uncertainty to not push this war further and go for the peace talks. After that the Central Powers would have their hands full with the colonies and in case of Hasburgs also some of the national issues.

As for Germany's situation, nationalism will grow but something like the Nazi Party would never gain much power. A considerable source of anti-semitism was actually that Germans (and Austrians) were looking for an excuse why they lost the war.
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I think I rather keep it is, I like the way I have it setup.

The main reason the British Empire isn't in the war is to act as barrier from preventing the German PLayer(me) from just using my new super-powered Germany to start stomping on everything.
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I could maybe possibly try a British Empire and run with it, probably moving towards better relations between Germany and the UK, as with a defeated and increasingly fascist France, a collapsing United States and an unstable globe in general, the British would look for powerful allies, and there's not really much better they can do than the Germans.
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If the option is still there a communist or psuedo-commie Movement led by a more radical Huey Long or Huey Long expy sounds like it could be fun.
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Hi, just interested in a smaller part. Mexico perhaps? To give America(s) something to do a little closer to home. Seeing as we could be having a fascist America I was thinking that the Mexican Civil War would have been intervened in very quickly (who would want a unstable socialism state on the southern borders?) leaving the Porfidarate in place as some aberrant, pseudo monarchical, fascistic dictatorship now under Porfirio Diaz's son and the country heavily under American influence, even a satellite perhaps. Of course to keep things interesting revolutionary intent is on the rise once again. Of course this doesn't work in its entirety if the fascists were not the dominant faction in American politics at the time.

Edit, either that or could I place as some smaller minor fourth faction in the coming American war such as Anarcho-Syndicalists like in the Spanish Civil War or straight up southern secessionists. Or even something straight up crazy like a black nationalist uprising. Oh and don't be put of by my lack of posts I have been in a couple of nrps, including what I think was the first WIR on the site, before the crash under a different name. Edit, plus I have been playing a ton of the Kaiserreich mod for Vicky 2.
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So anyways I guess I'll take communist America.
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Finals are approaching me. I will try to get this up as soon as possible however.
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Hi, just interested in a smaller part. Mexico perhaps? To give America(s) something to do a little closer to home. Seeing as we could be having a fascist America I was thinking that the Mexican Civil War would have been intervened in very quickly (who would want a unstable socialism state on the southern borders?) leaving the Porfidarate in place as some aberrant, pseudo monarchical, fascistic dictatorship now under Porfirio Diaz's son and the country heavily under American influence, even a satellite perhaps. Of course to keep things interesting revolutionary intent is on the rise once again. Of course this doesn't work in its entirety if the fascists were not the dominant faction in American politics at the time.

Edit, either that or could I place as some smaller minor fourth faction in the coming American war such as Anarcho-Syndicalists like in the Spanish Civil War or straight up southern secessionists. Or even something straight up crazy like a black nationalist uprising. Oh and don't be put of by my lack of posts I have been in a couple of nrps, including what I think was the first WIR on the site, before the crash under a different name. Edit, plus I have been playing a ton of the Kaiserreich mod for Vicky 2.


I rather there not be a fourth faction in America, however assuming whoever takes the USA goes fascist, then you can probably work with them for a Fascist puppet-state in Mexico.

I could maybe possibly try a British Empire and run with it, probably moving towards better relations between Germany and the UK, as with a defeated and increasingly fascist France, a collapsing United States and an unstable globe in general, the British would look for powerful allies, and there's not really much better they can do than the Germans.


Be warned, Germany still seeks to estiblish it self as the dominate naval power, so that might create tension.
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What of Japan in this whole scenario? I know that in Kaiserreich the mod itself things weren't incredibly different for them, but it seems you're putting your own spin on things. Is it possible to get a run down on their situation? I'm very much interested in taking Japan over anything else that has been mentioned.
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Be warned, Germany still seeks to estiblish it self as the dominate naval power, so that might create tension.


That may be the case, but I hope that isn't a thinly-veiled 'I want to create conflict with you for the sake of conflict'. The reasoning behind an Anglo-German alliance, especially after what has happened in WWI, is vastly more logical than the arguments against such a measure.

For one, a fascist France and Italy threatens both the British and German territories overseas, as the homeland of both Empires is dangerously close to two very hostile, very antagonistic nations, both of whom are likely out for British and German blood. The French fascists will most definitely pursue an irredentist policy towards the Germans over regions such as Alsace-Lorraine, and towards the British the French will definitely feel resentment as the British abandoned the Triple Entente in favour of a neutral stance in WWI. Add to that the communist dictatorship of the USSR, and Germany's only chance of a Great Power really looks to be the UK, surprisingly enough - France and Italy won't like what Germany did in WWI, and Russia's communist against a monarchist state. Austria-Hungary looks to have imploded, power-wise, and the Ottomans, too, have imploded. The sole Great Power outside of Europe that isn't knee-deep in civil war would be Japan, and the Anglo-Japanese Alliance would have stayed intact after WWI with a French defeat and the lack of a forming of the League of Nations, as well as the American instability which would dissuade Britain from aligning herself too closely to the USA and abrogating the treaty. Even if nationalistic sentiment dictates that somehow, for some godforsaken reason, the British are the enemy (which would most certainly not be the case, given that the German people would be mightily relieved the British did not enter the war), realpolitik dictates that at the very least a defensive alliance with the British would be the most logical choice of action. I for one reckon that in this situation, London would swallow its pride and enter into treaty talks with Berlin...
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I do realize that now.
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I do realize that now.


Japaaaaaaaan?
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So?
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I lost interest in the idea. If anyone wants to use it feel free to do so.
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That's a shame. I remember playing this mod all the time. If I had more time, I would've taken this up.
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That's a shame. I remember playing this mod all the time. If I had more time, I would've taken this up.


I know, this would've been fun
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I know, this would've been fun


I may do this sometime in the future, but I have been having trouble keeping up with other RPs.
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I'm potentially interested in this if Russia is available.
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So is this still happening anytime soon? Ever? Are factions still up for grabs? OOC up?

Could we start this RP with a broad Spanish Civil War type communist/anarchist front, and then have schisms develop, opening up the possibility of another left faction in America? In reality, there would have most likely been a split between the Leninist/RSDLP inspired factions in the American radical left, and between the classical socialists/orthodox Marxists/anarcho-syndicalists. If the first is taken, could I take the second if and when such a schism develops?
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So is this still happening anytime soon? Ever? Are factions still up for grabs? OOC up?

Could we start this RP with a broad Spanish Civil War type communist/anarchist front, and then have schisms develop, opening up the possibility of another left faction in America? In reality, there would have most likely been a split between the Leninist/RSDLP inspired factions in the American radical left, and between the classical socialists/orthodox Marxists/anarcho-syndicalists. If the first is taken, could I take the second if and when such a schism develops?


Said he might do it sometime in the future, but is behind in other RPs right now. I was hoping for it to pull through as well always loved the Kaiserreich world.
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