[quote=@Hael] If the mega-loyalty of the Kamiv is a problem to anyone, let me know. [/quote] Borderline stupidity/slavery and a practically gene encoded loyalty to the Kraken is fine. After all, they really don't have that much of a free will. It'd by like trying to convert a Qunari with no chance of going Tal Vashoth from the Qun. Immunity(unless the Kraken specifically shields them from other Gods, which can then be fought by another God attempting to break the shield. I mean that literally and figuratively.) from being screwed with, attacked by, or whatever else the Players or PCs in this RP might decide, is not. Basically, don't say, 'and other Gods can't mess with them ever because the Kraken created them'. Of course, having your God send the offending God packing with a good beating is perfectly acceptable, if not expected.