I got sidetracked and while I'm something like 2/3 of the way through my promised post, it's probably not happening tonight. [quote=@Frettzo] Actually, now that I think of it, it might be interesting if Kuro's Order pledged fealty to Ialu. Any idea how that could be achieved, [@Cyclone]? [/quote] I talked to Rtron about Ialu doing something to the Dyun (Speaking of which [@Rtron] Rtron did you see my last PM? You didn't respond to it) to the Dyun, and to Loki about fighting the Cimex. So you're going to have an invincible dragon-slaying Wi-master of a chieftain, who is also something of a human war hero. How could you not join a guy like that, especially when Vestec's tribe is enslaving all other humans and they have dragons (that apparently the Strong Tribe can kill...). Really I think it'd make sense if you just said they moved their village over near Ialu's lush riverland so that they could join his kingdom for mutual protection. He'd be the obvious guy to go to for that.