Oh good, I didn't want to offend you. I wanted to present things nicely in the opening post, like a sort of story, which is why I took the liberty of doing so. Brennus didn't do anything compromising, I don't think, so it's probably fine, but it's true that not every forum does so comfortably. Sorry again. Hrmrm you're right, I don't sound too convincing, and 'trust me' doesn't exactly cut it. I'll try to explain again. A forward lunge in gran passata (when you attack and simultaneously move your foot forward) is a fast attack that covers a lot of distance, but its downside is it takes forever and a half to recover from it. It's generally used when the opponent is in no situation to parry. It's not a quick darting in attack. However, a quick darting in attack could be obtained by moving forward in passata, and then attacking, once both your feet are on the ground. You obtain a very similar result this way: covering distance and then attacking. It's split into two movements, but it's a lot safer, and closer to what you were describing? [quote=@Skallagrim] Fencing is not sword fighting we are discussing. Fencing fights along lines the type of sword fighting in the era Melon wants does not. [/quote] It's true, this isn't at all historically accurate combat. Neither Melon nor I are using roman-era fighting techniques. I didn't think that was a requirement in the arena though. [@Melonhead] if you'd feel more comfortable using roman era spear-and shield, we can re-do this, no problem. I'd much rather fight and lose than debate for ages and not fight, if that makes any sense.