[quote=@Monkeypants] I never said it "is mine now" I wrote, and I quote. "You might get lucky and slip through. but china has a huge presence in the pacific now, especially the western pacific." Also, "Territorial waters, or a territorial sea, as defined by the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, is a belt of coastal waters extending at most 12 nautical miles (22.2 km; 13.8 mi) from the baseline (usually the mean low-water mark) of a coastal state." I do not think it applies as there is no United nations or sea law. <--im ok with this still being a thing. I'm just playing realistic in this scenario as things exist today like modern surveillance technologies, submarines, naval spotter planes, satellites etc.. Anyway, As I am interested to see how that sort of naval encounter between your nation and the Mexican/UTA fleet would be, what if your fleet was already in the area near the Marshall islands. Catching them before going too far in to Chinese waters. Edit: I am just saying that all this fleet activity so close to Chinese territory is going to draw significant attention and seeing as mexico is on very friendly terms with the Chinese, this scenario is very dangerous. [/quote] But legally you can't stop me if it isn't yours. And MetalLover said there was still a United Nations, so I'm operating under the assumption that those sorts of laws still apply. Indeed. I suppose we'll wait and see.