[quote=@IceHeart]The Greeks had many popular theories such as the one described; however, even if the Greeks are a 'classical' civilization they were hardly the first. In any event this does not get in the way of the original point at all being that not every kind of love is Éros.[/quote] Sure, but it does contradict your implication that Éros can only be felt between a man and a woman, and all us gays in every instance ever are just pretending to feel something beyond strong friendship. [quote=@IceHeart]Humans are biologically programmed to be male and female[/quote] *unless you're intersex [quote=@IceHeart]sure things can get messed up because of various factors but no one can argue that humans are sexual beings, as opposed to asexual or whatever.[/quote] Oh, I totally can. What with the fact that there are literally asexual people alive right now. [quote=@IceHeart]But I digress, as someone who has grown up around doctors and the medical field your statement is completely faulty. Yes some people are born with both sets or whatever but as far as medical science is concerned that is a mutation or the result of faulty DNA. In any case everyone has choice to decide what to do with their own circumstances.[/quote] Human beings' thumbs, brains, and ability to speak, think, and understand is also the result of faulty DNA. [quote=@IceHeart]Maybe, yet the concept would take care of many of the issues that cause problems. Everyone is so worried about [i]equality[/i] that they forget the fundamental fact that there is [i]inequality[/i] in the world. Everyone is different but instead people try to ignore that fact by saying we're all the same. We are all children of God and are equally precious in His eyes but the plain fact of this world is that [i]equality[/i] is a myth. No matter how hard they try it will never be the same even if it is called the same.[/quote] You fix inequality by trying to create equality. [quote=@IceHeart]There was marriage long before Christianity was around so I find much at fault with your statement; however, you are right in that fact that many pagan influences have effected and entered Christianity. The Catholic Church in particular was adept at incorporating the culture of an area to make the transition from the natives old lives toward their Christian ones easier to do. Still there is no evidence that marriage has pagan roots, especially since the Jews practiced marriage from way before hand. Also if you consider Adam and Eve as being marriage, even from the beginning of human existence.[/quote] Marriage predates all three Abrahamic religions and recorded human history entirely. Early man would participate in bonding rituals to join two people from separate families and strengthen clans overall. It was just a thing the Church adopted because people were already doing it-- to me that says that people should decide how they want to see marriage evolve, not a religious institution. Also, Adam and Eve never got married, and if they did it'd technically be incestuous. Since Eve was basically just Adam's r63'd clone.