[quote=@Darcs] [@Vilageidiotx]But the fact of the matter is that these are issues that exist independent of an abrasive capitalist ideology, they aren't just symptoms of systematic economic inequalities. They are cancers in their own right, the divide between races and genders in America and the world, but have historical and socio-cultural origins that need to be addressed. That isn't to say that they aren't exacerbated by economic problems, because they are, but in the same vein, the opposite could also be said about social issues worsening economic issues. By saying that we need to stop focusing on social issues and turn our gaze to the REAL problem that is the capitalist forces of evil, you fall victim to the same problem you accuse me of. You're oversimplifying the issue by splitting it into something that is starkly black and white. You're just swapping the (real) patriarchy with the classism that is the source of evil behind everything. Trans*people are systematically denied recognition under the law as their gender, homeless people are pushed out of cities and forced further into their situation instead of being offered help, more black men go to prison to fuel the prison industrial complex, Big Pharma fights to get Obamacare repealed, women are still vocationally, socially, and culturally seen as inferior to men, instead of just different, we continue to drone strike the Middle East despite right-wing terrorism being the bigger domestic problem, and conditions on plantations worsen annually while DC does nothing about it. These are complex problems, and no single one really exists independent of the other. It really won't do to try fixing them with ignoring any aspect of them, be it social of economic. Clearly the real problem here is [color=333333]the state. You should maybe consider becoming an anarchist.[/color] [/quote] Inequality does not, cannot, and will not exist. Empirical and analytical evidence decrees that humans are inherently unequal. Social stratification is principally founded on the disparities in cognitive capability, emotional stability, and physiological prowess that can be plainly perceived in any given human population. [quote=@Darcs] [@Vilageidiotx] okay we actually completely agree on most things in this argument, I see where it is we differ now [img]https://libcom.org/files/images/library/616779_507020079324280_1568464464_o_0.jpg[/img] ALSO; I actually disagree. I think the internet provides a unique opportunity for people to organize and significantly improve each others lives. Maybe I'm an optimist for thinking a more globalized society is a good thing, I don't know. [/quote] This will only yield comparatively fruitful results in only a paltry integer of societies across the globe. Said societies are comprised of non-clannish peoples that have a distinctive penchant for exhibiting affective empathy. There is a fundamental genetic reason why the lion's share of the world's most progressive and liberal civilizations are Western and Northern European states. Collectively, they spent about 800 years cleansing the alleles of their more violent and psychopathic members from their genetic pool and marrying outside of their immediate kinship circles. [b][i]The degree of kin-selection matters. Genes matter. Mating patterns matter.[/i][/b] Being dominated by clannish peoples (with the Middle East being quite known for engaging in cousin marriage), I don't see the Middle East or Africa suddenly accepting that homosexuality is normal, that transgender people deserve a safe space in the contemporary world, and that women need to be unshackled from the potent, malevolent grip of patriarchy. If you want them to embrace your egalitarian philosophy and its keystone principles, you're going to have to radically genetically engineer them to be something that they are clearly not. To give you an idea of what you're up against, homophobia is apparently hereditary: [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2292426/[/url] The rest can be attributed to environment, but since a people determines the environment that they reside within, you might be looking at a self-created echo chamber that reinforces homophobia.