[quote=@BrokenVeil][youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_RMPEz49Yk[/youtube][/quote] I feel like I'm in part to blame for this. [@Larfleeze] Vaporwave itself has transcended being a simple cosmopolitan genre, created out of internet culture and experimentation with image, music and ideology-- the pretentious, horrible and genius child of what Marx thought of as something that exists for no purpose and business terminology for a product the public will never get-- for playing slowed down elevator music from the 80's and Diana Ross. No, it is now it's own art movement with various directions, musical and artistic philosophies, and genres that exist under the incomprehensible, marble, windows 95 themed, anti/pro consumerist umbrella that is Vaporwave. It's the millennial answer to the punk movement in some ways, with an even greater stance on non-conformity-- to the point that you don't have to match a certain culture to appreciate it or fit in, you are anonymous, and in the sea of creation, you are one perspective that will only ever exist as yourself-- you create it all and interpret it for yourself. Sea punk and Vaporwave aren't two sides of the same coin-- because the coin is all in your head-- they're two different people looking at a beautiful statue, of an ocean's wave, the vapor coming from a bong, or old advertisements, man. Sea punk, is but a sub-genre, borrowing an aesthetic, and viewing the sea and the internet of the past as interchangeable. It is but an unlabeled VHS tape one might find in the dumpster of a long abandoned Japanese thriftstore while high, and also alone forever, and possibly in purgatory. And there's like, a bunch of abandoned malls on the block too, and down the street there's like this graveyard with a bunch of witches and bees and they're probably playing Twin Peaks there? And I guess there's neon everywhere too, and the beach is pretty close by, and it's a picturesque dusk, even though there's constantly a storm brewing further out. You feel pretty sad and alone and also you're high-- did I already say that?-- you're high on something, maybe it's just the freedom of finding something that wasn't marketed to you, a piece of art that will exist uniquely in your perspective and then you may never see again. Something that will take you somewhere beautiful and/or unnerving (porque no los dos?) for a moment in time that you can appreciate. But I'm getting away from the point-- and that is, Sea punk is ideologically part of Vaporwave, the aesthetic, the culture that created it-- even if the album isn't overly parodying/celebrating the culture of the past and painting consumerism in a negative light-- the idea that this a unique experience that you discovered freely still pervades. And I think it's beautiful. Saying Sea punk is better than Vaporwave is like saying Goldman is better than Bakunin. It's petty to compare student to teacher when they fought the same battle. tl;dr Post-Vaporwave>/=Mallsoft>Witch house=Future Funk>Vaporwave classic>Sea punk=Pre-Vaporwave>Sadboys>>>>>Ocean Grunge