[quote=@Sypherkhode822] This is probably the most positive thing posted on this thread... [b]BUT[/b] I want to say that I'm proud to be counted as a member of a group that is able to have respectful, intelligent discussions about gender. Way to go, guis. [/quote] Spoke too soon, didn't you? :P Heh, smh. I think the transgender topic can be closed now. I'm glad I brought it up for what some users articulated helped to broaden my views; at the same time it's clearly not a topic that some others can have a civil conversation about without going into personal attacks and twisting the meaning and words of what they're replying to. Let's move on to something else, or this will not end well.