[quote=@Lunamaria] i don't think you make a good argument by saying the existence (or not) of our bases in europe makes no difference if we suddenly need military force in that region (europe) [/quote] Expand on that? What I am saying is that we have to pay for this, so we have to consider its worth. What are we getting out of this exactly? Is the presence of American troops in Germany the only thing stopping Putin from raising the red flag and charging across the border? Do you think that a Russian Blitz could overrun Europe before American troops arrived?