[quote=@rush99999] The gods aren't supposed to know about Shade. [/quote] Well, there's two things that don't make sense about that: 1. Un's got like, a thousand heads. If Shade exists within range of game-playing range, he gets seen. 2. As God of Conflict, Un knows when something comes into conflict with something else, as well as what the two things in conflict are. Since Shade has apparently been doing the corruption thing, he's come into conflict with the gods. QED, Un knows who he is. As for the turtle, I'll change it to approximate Belgium-Size.